Hey folks, Kelvoran here and today I’m doing something a bit different. Today I’m discussing a movie, specifically Rise of Skywalker, the latest Star Wars film, but more specifically I’m going to be talking about a video that was put on YouTube by another content creator that goes by the name Angry Joe. Recently he released a video titled ‘Top 40 plotholes in Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker’ and after watching that, I felt like I needed to address some of these ‘plotholes’ and attempt to correct the record on at least some of them, which Joe actually encouraged people to do, so there you go.
But before I do that, I just want to say something real quick. I am NOT saying that AngryJoe, OtherJoe or Alex’s opinions are invalid. They are more than entitled not like the film and I am by no means attempting to ‘school’ them on the Star Wars universe with this to force them to suddenly like the movie. This is simply my take on some of their plotholes, some explanations of things they may have overlooked, and how I was personally able to rationalize what happened in the film. I’ll go through the list as they do in their YouTube video (located here if you haven’t seen it), although for some of the plotholes they weren’t wrong, and I’ll point that out clearly when I get to them.
Oh and before we really get into things, if it wasn’t obvious already…
SPOILERS AHEAD, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SPOILERS THEN DON’T READ THIS!!
That out of the way? Okay, let’s get into it.
1. How did Palpatine survive the Death Star’s destruction?
He didn’t, at least, not his original body. That body perished when the Death Star exploded. What we see in Rise of Skywalker, while unconfirmed, is likely a clone of Palpatine inhabited by the spirit of the former Emperor.
Within the canon of Star Wars, the spirit of a powerful Sith surviving death is not beyond the realm of possibility. We have two confirmed sources that cover this, as there are two Sith who managed to stave off true death and return, although not as force ghosts. These two Sith are known as ‘The Presence’ who inhabited a Sith Holocron at Malachor (Star Wars Rebels) and Lord Momin, who managed to preserve some of his consciousness in a mask until it was destroyed by Darth Vader (Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith).
Perhaps more importantly, the use of cloning and dark science is how the Emperor managed to return in what is now Star Wars Legends. While this is no longer canon, I feel like this was a throwback reference to the events of Legends.
1a. How did large pieces of the Death Star survive the destruction?
I addressed this in a direct tweet to Joe, but I’ll expand on it here, and this is where I think Joe was a bit dishonest with his reasoning, because to justify this point, he looked at the ending of Return of the Jedi to show the Death Star getting blown to smithereens. Here’s the thing. Return of the Jedi was released in 1983, which was a long time before modern advancements in CGI were available. Movie technology, while good, was not as good as it is now so that explosion was missing a lot that -would- have been on the screen if it were made today. Explosions, even ones from moon-sized super-weapons, do not vaporise everything. There would be debris, a lot of it, especially from an internal explosion So it is not beyond the realm of possibility that large chunks of the Death Star fell onto the moon. I’d wager that there would be similar chunks found around the Yavin system where the first Death Star was destroyed too.
2. Luke was hesitant to train anyone after Ben fell to the dark side and became Kylo Ren, why would he train Rey when he knew she was a Palpatine?
The timeline for events surrounding Rey’s training was not as simple as her showing up and getting training. Luke refused to train her initially and refused to come out of seclusion to fight the First Order. It wasn’t until he was confronted with Han’s death, combined with knowledge of Rey’s true purpose and a replayed message from R2-D2 that he agreed to train her, and even then he only gave her 3 lessons. As for when he learned of her lineage, that happened during her training when Luke sensed the strength of her connection to the force. In the movie he stopped training her at that moment but picked up the lessons again later. His concern about her raw power, however, remained.
3. If Lineage matters, how come Palpatine’s son wasn’t force-sensitive?
How do we know he wasn’t? That is never disclosed. We know next to nothing about Rey’s father, only that he was the son of Emperor Palpatine. We don’t even know his name at this stage.
4. Hyperspace Skipping
This, while introduced in Rise of Skywalker, does not go against established canon. It is possible to jump while in the gravitational pull of a planet, it’s just that most ships have safety protocols which prevent that from happening. Those protocols can be turned off, although it’s very dangerous to do so, which is why most ships don’t, especially larger vessels like the shuttles seen leaving Hoth during Empire Strikes Back.
To expand on this, there are sources in canon lore where ships have jumped into hyperspace while in the gravitational pull of a planet or other extremely dangerous situations:
- Jyn Erso and Company jumping to hyperspace while in the gravitational pull of Jedha after the Death Star destroyed the moon’s holy city (Rogue One).
- Hera Syndulla jumping to hyperspace directly in front of an Imperial construction module while attempting to escape Lothal (Star Wars: Rebels)
- Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo engaging the hyperdrive of her cruiser and using it as a weapon to destroy the First Order’s mega-class Star Dreadnaught, the Supremacy. (The Last Jedi)
5. How do the TIE Fighers Hyperspace skip as well?
So this is easily explainable. Despite being similar in appearance, there are multiple different models of TIE fighter. Within the First Order, there are 8 models, but there are only 2 different models that we care about for this question, the TIE/fo, which is used by the bulk of First Order pilots and the TIE/sf, which is used by First Order Special Forces. The TIE/fo while having upgrades over the Imperial TIE fighters used by the Galactic Empire, did not have hyperdrive technology onboard, however, the TIE/sf does. Those ships are capable of jumping to hyperspace, allowing them to keep up with Poe as he attempts to Hyperspace Skip.
But how do the pilots know where Poe skipped to? How were they able to keep up with him as he jumped multiple times? This is unexplained, so yes, this bit is a plothole, although it is my personal belief that the First Order advanced the technology that they used in The Last Jedi, giving their ships the ability to actively track through hyperspace. Given that the Falcon was being chased by the special forces of the First Order. It’s feasible that their ties were equipped with this technology, making them even more deadly, while standard TIE/fo models were not, but this is just conjecture.
6. The Sith Eternal. How does this affect the balance?
The members of the Sith Eternal, despite the name are not Sith, they’re members of a cult that are loyal to the Sith religion. Their existence doesn’t alter the balance at all.
7. The Prophecy was for 30 years of peace after 1000’s of years of previous Jedi peace?
The Prophecy only foretold the destruction of the Sith, not the end of the Dark Side or that there would be peace eternal. When Darth Vader died after killing Palpatine, he fulfilled that prophecy, at least for a time (until Palpatine returned via dark science cloning) as neither Snoke nor Kylo identified themselves as Sith, but as dark-side practicioners.
8. Where did the insane resources required for the Emperor’s Last Order Fleet on Exegol come from?
This is explained if you dig into the Sith Eternal. As they are a cult dedicated to the Sith religion, they have thousands of members, each with access to resources. It took years to build Sith Eternal Fleet (which became the Final Order fleet after it was integrated into the First Order) and fill the ranks of the Sith Eternal army. Given how Exegol does not have a shipyard, these ships were flown to Exegol, which is possible. After all, General Pryde (the man who shoots and kills General Hux for being a spy) was able to navigate his ship to Exegol.
But if Pryde could fly his ship to Exegol, why do Kylo and, later in the film, Rey require a Sith Wayfinder to get there? Both of them go to the location without an ‘invitation’ so to speak. Meaning they’re reliant on the wayfinders to get them there, where as Pryde was likely being guided by the same guidance tower that the Final Order fleet needed to use to leave Exegol. Essentially if you weren’t getting a route from the comm tower on Exegol, you needed the Wayfinder.
9. How did they miniaturize Death Star tech thousands of times over? Where did they get the Kyber Crystals from?
This is a plothole, but according to the Star Wars: The Force Awakens – Incredible Cross-Sections book, the Kyber Crystals come from a ‘secret location in the Unknown Regions’. Not exactly helpful, but there it is.
10. Why does a Sith Knife lead to a Wayfinder that leads to Exegol?
The Sith Knife was a tool used by the Sith Assassin who was tasked by Palpatine to kill Rey’s parents and recover Rey so that she could be taken to Palpatine and turned to the Dark Side. Once the Assassin completed his goal of recovering Rey and killing her parents he would no doubt need the Wayfinder to get to Exegol with Rey.
But why not just give the Assassin proper directions? Why go through all the song and dance with the knife? This is unclear, although in my opinion it comes down to secrecy. Radioing to Palpatine that the job was done and he needed to return to Exegol could have alerted the Republic to the Emperor’s existence, something the Emperor likely did not want. So he gave the Assassin the means to find a tool that would bring him to Exegol, but did not make it obvious, on the off-chance that the assassin failed or lost the knife.
11. It’s stated specifically that Snoke is not a Sith, yet he technically is and uses Sith powers?
He’s not a Sith in the sense that he was not trained by a Sith Lord. He did not apprentice himself to anyone as he was created via Dark Science to serve as Palpatine’s puppet. He was able to use the Dark Side, but using the Dark Side does not instantly make one a ‘Sith’.
12. Poe was suddenly a smuggler/spice runner in his past. How?
Without further expansion to understand where this fits in within the Star Wars timeline, this is a significant plothole for Poe’s story. According to previously released material, Poe served the Republic before he joined the Resistance. One of his last missions with the Republic takes place on the same year that he joins the Resistance, which doesn’t give Poe much time to be a ‘smuggler’ and build a relationship with Zorii Bliss, who claims that he abandoned the smugglers to ‘join the Resistance’ in Rise of Skywalker.
13. How does Kylo Ren get off Kef-Bir?
This is unexplained (and I question whether it needs to be, not every scene needs to be shown, especially if all it does is act as filler) but he shows up on Exegol in a TIE fighter. Presumably, even though he threw away his lightsaber and abandoned the moniker of Kylo Ren he still had enough authority within the First Order to be rescued and then commandeer a TIE fighter to fly to Exegol. Joe once again points out that TIE fighters don’t have hyperdrives here, but the TIE/sf fighters used by the First Order do have hyperdrives installed on them.
14. How is Luke’s X-Wing still functional?
This is potentially another plothole, but I cannot say for sure as I have not read the book that they refer to in this point. In the Last Jedi, however, the X-Wing in question can be seen by Rey, submerged in the water, but otherwise intact. It certainly seems capable of being operated, as it isn’t missing any major components in that scene. Alex points out that it’s non-functional, which, yeah, that’s accurate, you can’t operate an x-wing while it’s fully submerged under water, but that doesn’t mean it’s fully incapable of flight once it’s been pulled out of the water by the force.
15. Palpatine decides to bury his fleet under the planet where they are essentially stranded.
Except that they’re not stranded, and they can easily leave Exegol when they need to provided that the signal tower is transmitting the signal that directs them through the harsh conditions surrounding the planet. This is how one of the Star Destroyers of the Final Order manages to destroy Kijimii. It’s also worth noting that the ‘Sith Wayfinder Macguffins’ as they’re called are not public knowledge. Kylo has one, he’s not going to share it with the Republic so they can kill the Emperor for him, and the other one was hidden within the ruins of the Death Star, and could only be found by translating ancient Sith off a knife, which was buried beneath the sands of a planet until Rey found it.
Until Rey gives them a route to Exegol, the Final Order Fleet is perfectly safe. It’s under no threat at all for most of the movie.
16. How do Zorii Bliss and Babu Frik get off the planet if she gave her escape coin to Poe.
How she escaped is a relative unknown (another scene that would have essentially just been filler if they included it) but I figure personally that someone trained in how to smuggle spice would find a way to escape the planet at some point, the coin would have simply made it far easier for that escape to happen. As for her ship shooting the canon, as pointed out by Joe, well, none of the Star Destroyers in the fleet have deflector shields online. None of them! This was something explained by the movie (given how Joe seriously disliked it, I’m not surprised that he wasn’t paying attention near the end) as they can’t have them online while they’re in Exegol’s atmosphere. That’s why the Resistance strikes at the fleet there, because the ships are vulnerable.
17. Why doesn’t Palpatine know about the Force Dyad if is, or was controlling Snoke.
Snoke was not Palpatine, not in the sense that it was Palpatine’s spirit pulling Snoke’s strings like a puppet. It’s clear that Snoke is an independent figure, he was simply created by Palpatine to act as his agent. Kylo even states, fairly early in Rise of Skywalker, that Palpatine has no idea about the connection between the two, with whatever knowledge Snoke had of it going with him to his grave when he died.
18. How did the Jedi manifest in the force to help Rey if they were not trained by Qui-Gon Jinn?
Who said they manifested in the force the same way as Yoda and Obi-wan? Yes, you hear their voices, but here’s the thing. If you dig into the story of Qui-jon Jinn and you learn what happened to him after his death, you learn that he never finished the training, so he was never able to appear as a force ghost, only as a voice, a voice that reached out to Yoda and Obi-wan, instructing them both on how to appear as force ghosts.
But it is arguable, however, that training is even required. Anakin recieved zero training from Obi-wan, Yoda or Qui-jon on how to manifest as a force ghost, and yet, he was able to do so, with his ghost appearing next to Yoda and Obi-wan at the end of Return of the Jedi. Likewise, neither Luke, nor Leia recieved that training, that we know of, and yet both of them were able to appear as force ghosts, Luke, multiple times to Rey, and Leia alongside Luke when Rey arrived at Luke’s former home on Tattoine.
19. If Rey is a Palpatine, why did Luke’s Lightsaber call to Rey?
Objects with a particular bond to the force will call out to those who are force-sensitive. We’ve seen this before at the very beginning of Star Wars Rebels, when Ezra is called into Jarrus’s quarters on the Ghost, where he finds the Jedi Holocron and Jarrus’s lightsaber. Did the Holocron ‘call out’ to Ezra specifically? Did the Holocron know specifically that Ezra was there? Unlikely. It’s not sentient, meaning that any force-sensitive individual on that ship would have been able to sense the Holocron.
This is what happens with Luke’s lightsaber. Rey and Maz were the only force-sensitive beings on the planet at that time, that also happened to be close to the blade, so it ‘called’ to her in the same way the Holocron called to Ezra on the Ghost in Star Wars Rebels.
20. Where did Maz get Luke’s Lightsaber?
This is never explained (not a significant plothole though, again what this constitutes as is more filler if it was included in the films), but it’s fairly easy to guess what happened, seeing as it is the Lightsaber that was originally wielded by Anakin and given to Luke by Obi-wan and not the one that Luke constructed later. That particular Lightsaber was lost when Darth Vader lopped off Luke’s hand in the underbelly of Cloud City.
The blade was likely picked up by scavengers (as Luke certainly didn’t pick it up) and was bought and sold over time until Maz located it, likely the same way that Rey did, as Maz is force-sensitive herself. Knowing the significance of the blade, she chose to keep it, rather than sell it to the highest bidder, and likely would have held onto it had Rey not been called to the blade.
21. How did Lando get all those ships to join the Resistance?
Unexplained, but I don’t consider it to be a plothole, especially when you consider that the fleet does not show up instantly, and it almost seems like the Resistance is going to lose before the fleet shows up. Other Joe points out that yes, the stakes are much higher this time around, the navigation to Exegol is not simple, but so is the threat that the Final Order represents. A threat that everyone knows about, as Palpatine made it no secret that the fleet existed and what he was going to use it for. He sent the word out, and plenty of folks responded.
If you want a comparison to real world history of something similar happening. Look at the events of Dunkirk in World War 2. It took a lot longer (because human made naval vessels take longer to get around than star ships with hyperdrives) but a call went out for aid and over 800 ships responded
But honestly, what bothers me the most about this ‘plothole’ isn’t what Other Joe brings up, because, it can be seen as a legitimate point in the right circumstances. What bothers me is Joe’s justification as to why it’s a plothole. “He has to go to every system…” did you not watch Revenge of the Sith? Palpatine was able to broadcast Order 66 to every single clone out there. Hell, in Episode 2, Attack of the Clones, Anakin can send a message from Tattoine directly to the Jedi Council on Courscant. If that is possible, surely Lando could reach out to his contacts on other worlds from the Falcon, or send out a broad message calling for all ships willing to take the fight to the Final Order.
22. Why didn’t the Emperor simply transfer his essence into his son.
This isn’t a plothole, but it is a good question, which hopefully we get an answer to as more details are revealed about Rey’s parents (if that ever happens at all). For now, we simply don’t know enough about Rey’s father to know why he wasn’t picked a vessel. He may not have been force-sensitive, which is possible, as force sensitivity is determined by the midichlorian count in a body, and there is a possibility that Rey’s father didn’t have the necessary levels to harness the force. Or he may have been force-sensitive, but rejected what his father stood for, which is also possible. Judging only by the flashback we see of Rey’s father, he seems to be in his late 30s, if not early 40s, which if accurate, would mean he would have been alive during the Clone Wars, before his father was disfigured and became the Emperor. If he was alive during that time, seeing what his father did, what his father would then go on to do? I can imagine that being a good enough reason to reject good ol’ dad’s plan for him or his grandchild.
Unfortunately until more is revealed about Rey’s parents, we’ll never know the real reason why Rey was picked as the vessel over his son.
23. How did Rey know how to pilot the skiff on Bef Kir, especially in those conditions, which even experienced sailors would have trouble with?
This is a really good question, and yes, it’s a plothole. While it could be argued that Rey could pick up how to use a skiff fairly easily, she would not have been able to use it in those conditions, and it would have destroyed the skiff and possibly caused her death.
24. How is Rey a Jedi? If everything she is goes against what a Jedi is supposed to be?
This is probably one of the stupidist points that Other Joe makes in my opinion, because it sets up an arbitrary gate. You used anger and rage? You can’t be a Jedi. Well, then clearly Luke cannot be a Jedi, because he used his anger and rage in battle against Darth Vader on the Death Star in Return of the Jedi. Luke went into full rage mode when Vader brought up the possibility of turning Leia to the dark side, whaling on his father, beating him down before taking off his hand, and it was only after he took off Vader’s hand and heard the Emperor laughing that he realized what he had done and calmed the fuck down. Yet, despite this, he is still considered a Jedi, but when Rey taps into rage, suddenly the question becomes “Why is she a Jedi?”
Mastery of emotions requires training and dedication. Even Anakin, who recieved a full regime of Jedi training from Obi-wan and advice from other masters had trouble reigning in his emotions, which is what caused his fall to the dark side. Rey by comparison recieved none of that training. She got a total of three lessons from Luke and while we’re told that Leia also trained her, we don’t know how Leia trained Rey. Her emotional control is not going to be anywhere close to other Jedi.
25. They fly now?
As much as I hate to say it, the three of them are spot on here, because this line was delivered poorly in respect to the canon.
All this was supposed to be, was a bit of humour injected into the movie, which, at least when I watched it in the cinema, it worked, folks laughed. For those who know the lore though, it doesn’t make sense for Finn or Poe to say “They fly now.” because they would know that they fly. Finn, being a former First Order Stormtrooper, would know that the First Order employed Jet Troopers, and Poe, having fought them before the events of any of the movies, would also know about Jump Troopers. The only folks that should be surprised by their use of Jetpacks should be C3-PO, Chewbacca and Rey.
26. How does the Emperor’s lightning only affect the Rebels?
We don’t know for sure that it does. We never see the effects of the lightning on the ships of the Final Order. The only time we see the crew of a Final Order ship is actually during the fight to knock out General Pryde’s vessel. Let’s break it down though and explain this, because it can be explained easily. Simply put, lightning and electomagnetic fields don’t pick and choose who they effect, so we can safely assume that all the ships were affected, in which case it comes down to a matter of size. A smaller fighter like the Millenium Falcon or an A-Wing, is going to have a very different reaction to being struck by lightning compared to say, a massive Star Destroyer. What knocks one ship out of the sky, may be completely ignorable by others. This applies to all vessels and armoured units in the Star Wars universe. A rocket trooper may be able to take out an AT-ST with a well placed rocket, but that same rocket isn’t going to bring down an AT-AT.
27. Why does Palpatine only have one waypoint tower for his entire fleet?
Why would he need more than one? Let’s look at the scenario real quick, you have a massive fleet on a planet called Exegol, which can only be reached if you are either being directed by the waypoint tower (which is how Pryde’s vessel got there), you have a Sith Wayfinder (which is how Kylo and Rey get there) or you have the route mapped by another vessel (which is how the Allied fleet gets there after Rey maps the route for them using Red-5).
The system was effectively a safe harbour, given how difficult it was for intruders to get there. So why waste resources building more than one waypoint tower when the chances of a single ship finding the planet, much less a whole fleet, is extremely small? Stupid given the benefit of hindsight? Yes. Plothole? No.
28. They can’t attack the towers from the air.
To be honest this point that they’re making confuses me, because I’m not sure exactly what they’re trying to say. So, I won’t get into this one, but again Joe points out that the Y-Wings are shooting the Star Destroyers even though their shields should be up, to which I’ll again highlight the fact that while they’re in the Exegol atmosphere the Star Destroyers cannot turn on their shields, which is the entire reason why the Resistance took the fight to Exegol in the first place.
29. The horses, why not tilt to slide them off?
This would honestly be a legitimate tactic. I can only assume that they chose not to because they have troops on the outside of the ship fighting the Resistance ground forces. Not to mention the interior of ships do not operate on massive gimble devices, meaning that if they tilt the ship, everything inside it shifts, which could cause a LOT of damage to the inside of the vessel, hurt or potentially kill personel inside the ship and cause folks that were at their stations to, well, no longer be at their stations as they were thrown around by the tilting vessel.
30. Force healing? Why haven’t Jedi used this before?
This is something that honestly, they’re freaking out waaaay too much over. Firstly, Force Healing? We’ve seen it in the Mandalorian, Baby Yoda does it, and canonically, the events of the Mandalorian take place between Episodes 6 and 7. It’s something that can be tapped into, but let’s go into detail as to why this isn’t used. The reason why, is that it’s not just magical healing that restores the life of the affected individual without a cost. To use the force to heal you must sacrifice your vitality, which is why in the case of Baby Yoda, it completely drains him. He’s out of action for a while after that, needing to sleep for a long time.
So why didn’t other Jedi use it during the Clone Wars? Unclear, possibly because of the cost. If healing a small wound takes a lot of energy, then saving a life with the force would cost a life in return, which is actually what we see in Rise of Skywalker. Kylo uses the force to heal Rey, restoring her life, at the cost of his own. How is that a good trade-off? Who gets to decide the value of a life? Should a Jedi Knight with great potential for growth in the future sacrifice their life to heal a Jedi Master? Should a Master of the force sacrifice their skill and knowledge to save the younger generation?
These are good questions with difficult answers, answers which I am sure the Jedi were not comfortable with, which is likely why Force Healing was not practiced by the Jedi during the Clone Wars.
31. Why doesn’t Palpatine stop shooting lightning?
This is a good point. I can’t say anything against this. Palpatine is an idiot.
32. Rey finds the dagger, but Luke and Lando couldn’t. Why?
Well to be fair I don’t think Rey would have found it either if they hadn’t landed in that sinkhole and gone under the sand into the serpent cave. A stroke of luck. That’s it.
32a. Luke couldn’t get past the Sandworm?
Well I’m sure he could have, if he knew it was there, but he didn’t.
32b. The ship out in the open, not being scavenged or otherwise stolen.
This is a good point, I have to give it to them. That ship should have been scavenged for parts or stolen by now.
32c. Luke and Lando couldn’t see the black sand.
Who says they couldn’t? It would be impossible to miss, but neither of them would have known what was under said sand. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you be willing to gamble with your life in the hopes that there was a cave beneath the black quicksand like substance? I wouldn’t.
32d. How is the sand still there, why doesn’t it fill the cave?
No idea, this is a good point.
33. Life force drain? Why didn’t the Emperor use it on Luke?
Because he wasn’t trying to find a new host at the time, he was trying to turn Luke to the Dark Side to replace Vader. That was the goal, have Luke kill Vader (who Palpatine had become increasingly frustrated with as Vader grew older) and replace his old, robotic apprentice with a younger model.
By the time of Rise of Skywalker, Palpatine is stuck on a medical device, unable to leave Exegol (at least, that’s the assumption) so he needs a new vessel. He wants Rey because of the bloodline connection and her power, but when she resists him, and he discovers their connection, at that point he realizes that he doesn’t need a new vessel. He can simply drain Kylo and Rey, kill both of them and live for decades as the ruler of the galaxy.
34. Holdo pulled off a one in a million move.
I feel like this is being read into way too much. Finn, a former Stormtrooper with no advanced knowledge of how hyperspace works (he knew about how Hyperspace tracking worked though, which is an issue on its own), dismisses the Holdo Maneuver as a ‘one in a million shot’. Finn doesn’t know any better. The equivalent would be me, someone who watched some sci-fi movies and did a bit of research on the net, telling folks at NASA, that a rocket launch to the moon is too risky because the last person to do it got lucky.
They wouldn’t listen to me, so, realistically, no one should have listened to Finn, but they did anyway, because while Finn doesn’t have a point, suicide ramming a large vessel into a fleet using the hyperdrive is risky for all involved, can easily fail, and it destroys assets which are in short supply for the Resistance. The fact that the Holdo Maneuver is used against a Final Order vessel above Endor after the fact is just icing on the cake.
35. Rey and Kylo kiss, no setup, why?
I honestly have no real response to this, so I’ll just throw in my opinion, which is that the tension between the two has been building up since the moment the pair realized they could communicate with each other, and see each other, through the force. This is why ‘Reylo’ exists in the first place. Because folks saw that tension and wanted directors to use it.
36. Be proud of who you are, the message is ignored.
I mean, not really, Rey no longer sees herself as a Palpatine. She sees herself as a Skywalker. It was the Skywalkers who treated her like family, who trained her to use the force. Whereas her father and mother left her on Jakku (for good reason, but that’s beside the point) and her Grandfather wanted to use her as a vessel for his power/spirit. Would you be proud of who you were if you were related to that family? I don’t think so.
37. How can Ahsoka Tano contact Rey as a force ghost?
Well I think this point is pretty self-explanatory. If she’s communicating to Rey using her voice as a force ghost, that means she, like Kanan Jarrus (who’s voice is also present), is likely dead. Granted she could still be alive and simply communicating through the force, but that is unlikely given what we know. Hopefully we’ll discover her fate in a future movie or Star Wars series, but my best guess is that she died during the fight with the First Order, possibly one of the many who were killed by Starkiller Base during the events of ‘The Force Awakens’.
Again Joe brings up the whole ‘how can she be a force ghost if she’s not a Jedi’ to which I’ll again point out that Anakin managed to become a force ghost at the end of Return of the Jedi despite being a practicioner of the Dark Side for most of his adult life. If he can manage it, I’m sure Ahsoka could as well.
38. What was Finn going to say to Rey?
We might find out later. It’s an unresolved thread, which hopefully we’ll see expanded on if Disney approves an Episode X or movie/series involving Rey and Finn. Either way, not something to get annoyed over in my opinion.
39. Why don’t the force ghosts help Rey against Palpatine?
This is a good question. But I feel like the fact that they didn’t materialize and help was probably for the best. If they had, I feel like this would have caused an even larger furor of disgruntled individuals, complaining about how Rey had to be ‘saved’ by the ghosts, and it would have made her victory over Palpatine hollow (how many super powered ghosts does it take to beat up an old guy attached to a medical device? THIS MANY!!).
It’s also possible that the sheer amount of Dark Side energy on Exegol weakens the spirits of the Jedi, so they’re doing all they can by giving Rey their power so she can strike the killing blow.
40. Why didn’t Kylo’s TIE Whisperer explode when Rey cut it down with her Lightsaber?
Superior engineering? Honestly it’s not the first TIE fighter that we’ve seen impact into dirt and rock and not explode. The TIE/fo that Finn and Poe escape in during The Force Awakens impacts heavily into the ground, but the pod is mostly intact when Finn finds it, and then there’s the TIE that is piloted during the Mandalorian season finale by Moff Gideon. It crashes, and yet Gideon manages to survive and cut his way out of the pod with his fancy sword.
41. Why is Lando on the party planet?
This was brought up by Alex right at the end when Joe was bringing up his last point about Kylo’s TIE Whisperer. Why was Lando on the party planet?
The reason why he was there is because he settled there. He was humbled by the Aki-Aki people and was burying his negative feelings that he was feeling after his failures, both as a father and a friend. Lando’s daughter was taken by the First Order when she was 2 years old and he never got her back (knowing that the First Order was kidnapping children to serve as Stormtroopers, it’s likely that she was taken and conditioned to serve as one) and then he and Luke failed in their mission when they travelled to Pasaana in search of the Sith Assassin, Ochi.
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Well there we go folks, my responses to Angry Joe’s plotholes video. Again I want to say that I’m not trying to change Joe’s mind, he’s entitled to his opinion that the movie is bad. He’s welcome to it, but I hope that he reads this, and potentially reevaluates his position on some of these plotholes.
Until next time folks.
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